[BBLISA] Database education? (fwd)

[Tabor J. Wells]

On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 06:30:09PM -0400,
Dean Anderson <dean at av8.com> is thought to have said:

> Umm, this caught my attention:
> 
> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.9 required=5.0 
> tests=NO_EXPERIENCE,RCVD_IN_SORBS,
>         RCVD_IN_SORBS_ZOMBIE autolearn=no version=2.63
> 
> It seems you are using SORBS as a blacklist. Be advised that SORBS is
> /not/ an anti-spam list, but a personal revenge list. It claims
> (willfully) that all of Av8 Internet's address space is hijacked.  Of
> course, ARIN has a different and authoritative report, and genuine lists
> of hijacked address space also do not include the Av8 space.

C'mon Dean. You can claim that it is your space but your own ARIN records
below show the somewhat, shall we say, cloudy history of this net block.

> [dean at dakota h323systems]$ whois 130.105.0.0 at whois.arin.net
> [whois.arin.net]
> 
> OrgName:    Open Software Foundation 
> OrgID:      OSF
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> Address:    P.O. Box 7286
> City:       Nashua
> StateProv:  NH
> PostalCode: 03060
> Country:    US
> 
> NetRange:   130.105.0.0 - 130.105.255.255 
> CIDR:       130.105.0.0/16 
> NetName:    OSF
> NetHandle:  NET-130-105-0-0-1
> Parent:     NET-130-0-0-0-0
> NetType:    Direct Allocation
> NameServer: STARSHIP.AV8.COM
> NameServer: CONCORDE.AV8.COM
> Comment:    
> RegDate:    1988-07-20
> Updated:    1998-12-21
> 
> TechHandle: DA31-ARIN
> TechName:   Anderson, Dean A.
> TechPhone:  +1-617-344-9000
> TechEmail:  dean at av8.com 
> 
> OrgAbuseHandle: DA31-ARIN
> OrgAbuseName:   Anderson, Dean A.
> OrgAbusePhone:  +1-617-344-9000
> OrgAbuseEmail:  dean at av8.com
> 
> OrgTechHandle: DA31-ARIN
> OrgTechName:   Anderson, Dean A.
> OrgTechPhone:  +1-617-344-9000
> OrgTechEmail:  dean at av8.com

Just because you managed to get the postal address changed before ARIN was 
more strict about checking netblock ownership rights doesn't mean you own the 
block. If you truly did, you would have managed to get that pesky organization 
name changed to AV8.

http://www.fact-index.com/o/op/open_software_foundation.html
http://www.fact-index.com/t/th/the_open_group.html
http://www.theopengroup.org/

is the real owner of the netblock in question and its disingenious of you to
claim that SORBS is revenge listing you. Or perhaps you'd like to clear up
why such a small ISP as yours has managed to get a /16 that was allocated to
OSF? Perhaps you're claiming you are the OSF now? If you could make that
claim you would have been able to give ARIN the documentation necessary to
show that ownership of 130.105.0.0/16 passed to you and get the OrgName
changed.

I apologize to the rest of the list for feeding the troll but such a
ridiculous claim that the hijacked IP space in used by av8.com is a revenge
listing was just too much to let pass unquestioned.

Tabor
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Tabor J. Wells                                     twells at fsckit.net
Fsck It!                 Just another victim of the ambient morality