[BBLISA] I need a colocation for 10 or perhaps 12 1U machines
Sean Lutner
sean at rentul.net
Wed Dec 1 21:51:25 EST 2004
My email is hosted, and I have no control over what my provider chooses
to use as filtering methods. I am however happy with my hosting. I do
actually know all about MAPS and people's issues with it.
I don't know Paul Vixie from my dog, and I don't care who is on his
list. I also don't care who *isn't* on his list. I actually know
someone on the list, and he's neither a supporter or detractor of Paul
or his views.
Again, the topic of this thread was someone asking for hints towards
colocation. I offered what I thought might be a useful link to someone
who asked. You then came along and pulled the thread into some stupid
personal ranting opinion mode that no one needs to read. If you didn't
like the link I offered for whatever reason, maybe you could have been
adult enough to just ignore and move on with your life.
I'm sorry I fed the troll, I'm done.
Sean
On Dec 1, 2004, at 9:31 PM, Dean Anderson wrote:
> I'm just stating a fact. Surely a US Federal Court opinion isn't a
> rant.
>
> The people listed on Vixie's personal web site are his "friends", and
> often either share his views, or simply don't question his views. Its
> probably safe to assume that anyone that disagrees with Vixie won't go
> on
> that list. Surely this isn't a rant.
>
> Av8 is not on that list, and he falsely tells people I stole IP address
> space through SORBS. This is another fact. No rant there, either.
>
> So what do you think is a rant?
>
> As I got a bounce from your address saying our IP addresses were
> hijacked,
> I note that you are also using his "new MAPS" (SORBS.NET). It would
> /seem/
> that you have an axe to grind, using such an abusive blacklist, unless
> you
> are just ignorant of its non-spam activities---which is a real
> possibility---most of its users are unaware, so I apologize in advance
> for
> assuming you already know of them.
>
> <sean at rentul.net>
> (reason: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [130.105.36.66]
> blocked
> using zombie.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Hijacked/Disused
> Netblock See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?130.105.36.66)
>
> You can check ARIN records on this block. The OSF still exists as The
> Open
> Group. It is a customer of Av8 Internet. One can't hijack space from a
> company that still exists. Also lookup 198.3.136/21 on SORBS and ARIN.
> One
> can't hijack space from oneself. If a "rant" is an outrageous
> assertion,
> then it would seem that it is SORBS that is doing the ranting and
> raving,
> not to mention defaming, misleading and lying.
>
> Assuming you are unaware of the abusive nature of SORBS, I'll explain
> that
> SORBS (Vixie, Matthew Sullivan, and Alan Brown formerly of ORBS.ORG)
> falsely claims our IP address space is stolen. (198.3.136/21 and
> 130.105/16). Brown has lost 3 lawsuits over his false statements
> before,
> but hasn't learned that lying is bad. Vixie was also successfully sued
> for
> using MAPS to block a non-spam site. Vixie also knows better, and now
> has
> poor (as in no assets) college student Matthew Sullivan setup to take
> any
> legal heat for SORBS. SORBS was booted from XO before getting service
> from Vixie at ISC.ORG for engaging in defamatory activities in
> violation
> of its AUP. Strangely, (given Vixie's strenous claims that everyone
> should have an AUP), ISC has no AUP.
>
> You can see some more information at www.iadl.org.
>
> --Dean
>
>
>
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Sean Lutner wrote:
>
>> The list of personal colocation providers maintained by Mr. Vixie
>> are
>> in no way that I know of associated with him, he is just keeping a
>> list. I offered the list as a potential suggestion, and hoped that
>> maybe it would help Dima.
>>
>> I don't think I or anyone else on this list needed to see a rant such
>> as that. Your personal battles with people that stem from other
>> mailing
>> lists are really off topic, and rather unnecessary.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sean
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2004, at 5:13 PM, Dean Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> FYI: Vixie (and the Vixie crowd) don't think that the ECPA
>>> (Electronic
>>> Communication Privacy Act) applies to the internet. They chased me
>>> off
>>> Nanog some years ago for asserting that it did apply to ISPs. They
>>> think
>>> they can read your email without penalty. There are several court
>>> cases
>>> in addition to the text of the statute and the associated Congression
>>> Reports specifically describing email as a subject of the law, that
>>> indicate that Vixie's group is wrong. But they've never repented.
>>>
>>> Last year, an ISP was found to be reading it customers email for it
>>> own
>>> commercial benefits--From what I understand, it was reading customers
>>> email and then contacting people its customers were doing business
>>> with.
>>> It was charged with a criminal violation of the Wiretap Act. This was
>>> an
>>> error on part of the prosecutor and it resulted in them not being
>>> charged
>>> with an ECPA violation:
>>>
>>> http://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/pdf.opinions/03-1383-01A.pdf
>>>
>>> Count 1: Conspiracy to violate 18 USC 2511. Court dismissed this
>>> count
>>> on
>>> the grounds that email is in "electronic storage", and cannot be
>>> "intercepted" under the meaning of '2511. I agree. But this does not
>>> mean
>>> that a violation of 18 USC 2701 has not occurred. As I suspected, the
>>> defendant was not charged with a violation of 18 USC 2701.
>>>
>>> The defendant argues that his acts were lawful under the ECPA but the
>>> Court does not address this argument, noting on page 16:
>>>
>>> "Defendant's argument takes us beyond the charges in the
>>> Indictment.
>>> Therefore, we need not stray beyond the text of the Wiretap Act
>>> into
>>> the
>>> Stored Communications Act because the government sought to indict
>>> defendant only for conspiracy to violate Title I, 18 U.S.C. S
>>> 2511(a)"
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Sean Lutner wrote:
>>>
>>>> You may also wish to look over http://www.vix.com/personalcolo/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 27, 2004, at 1:39 AM, Dima wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, there,
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> Can somebody please help me with my colocation
>>>>> needs? It's me and again, I know. Sorry.
>>>>>
>>>>> I finally found a good cluster, consisting from 10
>>>>> 1U dual Opterons. When I tried to find a home for
>>>>> this cluster, I was surprised to see extremely
>>>>> high prices for even modest U intervals. It almost
>>>>> looks like 42U costs more than 42x1U. And it comes
>>>>> with only 20 Amps of power.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering if somebody can direct me towards
>>>>> good colocation shop. I don't need anything
>>>>> special. I just need to work on this cluster
>>>>> before it will go in production. My house will not
>>>>> survive power load.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you know any not-so-expensive colocation shop -
>>>>> please send me a name or URL or phone number.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Dimitri (Dima) Shcherban
>>>>>
>>>>> Phone: 800-445-2588+3+36955
>>>>> or: 508-898-6955
>>>>> Westborough ext: [823]-36955
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>> Sean Lutner | www: http://www.rentul.net
>>>> e-mail: sean at rentul.net | gpg: http://www.rentul.net/sean.sig
>>>>
>>>> "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
>>>>
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>> Sean Lutner | www: http://www.rentul.net
>> e-mail: sean at rentul.net | gpg: http://www.rentul.net/sean.sig
>>
>> "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
>>
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"Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
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